Comments on: Struggling Seeker-Sensitive Services http://stevensc.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/struggling-seeker-sensitive-services/ The Ramblings And Thoughts Of A Pastor Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:12:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Michael Warren http://stevensc.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/struggling-seeker-sensitive-services/#comment-80 Michael Warren Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:19:39 +0000 http://stevensc.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-80 Although I look to my pastor for counsel and hear the word of God flow through him on Sunday services. I feel a greater desire to seek to know God with all my heart and all my strength. I believe that is when it becomes personal between God and me. I desire to have more of the word of GOD, not just what the pastor has for me on Sunday survices. SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND, KNOCK AND IT SHALL BE OPEN. John 15: 4 "Abide in Me, and I in you, As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me What works for me with in the church is to see it being lived out and testified about in church. Seeing the fruit of others and hearing how they got to that point in their walk with Jesus motivates me to seek to have that kind of personal relationship with Jesus. Christs love! Although I look to my pastor for counsel and hear the word of God flow through him on Sunday services. I feel a greater desire to seek to know God with all my heart and all my strength. I believe that is when it becomes personal between God and me. I desire to have more of the word of GOD, not just what the pastor has for me on Sunday survices. SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND, KNOCK AND IT SHALL BE OPEN.
John 15: 4
“Abide in Me, and I in you, As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me
What works for me with in the church is to see it being lived out and testified about in church. Seeing the fruit of others and hearing how they got to that point in their walk with Jesus motivates me to seek to have that kind of personal relationship with Jesus.
Christs love!

]]> By: Kurt Michaelson http://stevensc.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/struggling-seeker-sensitive-services/#comment-67 Kurt Michaelson Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:21:57 +0000 http://stevensc.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-67 Does the pastor have or want a deeper understanding of the Bible? Is the pastor developing a deeper, more intimate relationship with Christ, through prayer, fasting and a deeper study of His Word? Is the pastor being challenged by God to walk in deeper faith with Him? It all begins with the pastor, not with the people. The pastor, as the shepherd, leads the people in hearing what God is saying through him, not the reverse. Your answer is not found from the people, but through prayer to God. Does the pastor have or want a deeper understanding of the Bible?
Is the pastor developing a deeper, more intimate relationship with Christ, through prayer, fasting and a deeper study of His Word?
Is the pastor being challenged by God to walk in deeper faith with Him?

It all begins with the pastor, not with the people. The pastor, as the shepherd, leads the people in hearing what God is saying through him, not the reverse.

Your answer is not found from the people, but through prayer to God.

]]> By: Justin http://stevensc.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/struggling-seeker-sensitive-services/#comment-61 Justin Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:43:14 +0000 http://stevensc.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-61 They found out there were problems with the seeker sensitive approach of surveying people and meeting those needs and their solution is... MORE SURVEYING! That's crazy. Let's just get back to the Bible. They found out there were problems with the seeker sensitive approach of surveying people and meeting those needs and their solution is… MORE SURVEYING! That’s crazy. Let’s just get back to the Bible.

]]> By: Ben Maulis http://stevensc.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/struggling-seeker-sensitive-services/#comment-60 Ben Maulis Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:35:43 +0000 http://stevensc.wordpress.com/?p=41#comment-60 The Lord said, "I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings." It sounds like you can track your effectiveness by watching the people turn from their evil way and from the evil of their doings. If you want to see results, stand in his counsel and cause his people to hear his words. The Lord said, “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.”

It sounds like you can track your effectiveness by watching the people turn from their evil way and from the evil of their doings. If you want to see results, stand in his counsel and cause his people to hear his words.

]]>